An interview with Marc Djan
Ocean France created some of the most polished coin-op conversions for the Amiga. Marc Djan was the head of Ocean France, and kindly answers some questions about the company.
Who started the company?
I started Ocean France after meeting David Ward a few times as Game Creator and Generation 4 magazine editor.
Was it an existing group of people that became Ocean France or was it a totally new team?
I setup Ocean France from scratch. The object was to code all the Ocean 16-bit projects.
Did Ocean UK own Ocean France, or just a share of it?
Ocean UK owned Ocean France.
What year was Ocean France setup?
What was the first game Ocean France worked on? From publishing years it appears to be Operation Wolf, is that correct?
Yes, then Dragon Ninja.
In an interview in Zero issue 19, it was stated that you got to choose which games you were going to convert. How exactly did that side of things work?
At the very start we began with Operation Wolf and Dragon Ninja conversions, but every time a project was finished it took a long time to get new projects. So I decided myself to check for good coin-op games that would be great to convert and then tell David Ward to secure the rights.
Most of the time we even started to code before we had the rights, but I was only choosing coin-ops where I knew Ocean had a good relationship with the manufacturer. We also created some games based on other coin-ops such as Beach Volley or free licenses such as Ivanhoe.
Converting the games without any rights sounds extremely difficult as you would have had no support from the original manufacturer. Did you video the games or buy a coin-op cabinet to try and convert them?
I was in contact with the French importer and I was buying them.
Ocean France worked on some very polished games that were never released. Can you tell me a little about those?
In 1990-1991 I decided to go for some coin-ops from Taito like Liquid Kids etc... but Ocean UK were never been able to get the rights for those.
At the same time there was change in the Ocean games distribution in France so I transformed Ocean development to Marketing and Sales that I was managing too. That was the first M&S video subsidiary.
I offered the job of marketing manager to a old friend of mine, Michael Sportouch who today is number 2 at Activision UK.
Does that mean that around 1991 Ocean France effectively stopped programming games and was just a marketing/sales department?
Yes except for external developments as Mr Nutz .
Who allocated the games to convert? eg. How did Pierre Adane end up converting Pang, Snow Bros etc?
Pierre Adane was a programmer I hired as well as Philippe Dessoly (Golgoth71) graphic artist. They are great professionals and have worked or been partners with me for a very long time.
I chose Pang and Snow Bros myself.
Then it was Mario Bros time and I wanted a character for Ocean so I decided to launch Mister Nutz but this was after 1991.
There's 4 quite famous unreleased games from Ocean France. Can you give me any details about the following Amiga games:
- WEC Le Mans
- Liquid Kids (complete but never published)
- Snow Bros (complete but never published)
- Hammerin' Harry
I can't remember why WEC Le Mans was never released, but for the 3 others David Ward and John Wood were not able to secure the licenses for them.
It's a shame as they were fantastic conversions.
Do you recall how complete Hammerin' Harry was? (The only article I can find about the game was a preview in Zero issue 19 from May 1991 where it was stated as due for a Xmas release). Who worked on the game and is there any chance any of it remains with the programmer or graphic artist?
It was an Irem game - I cannot really remember but I believe we finished it but perhaps Ocean didn't get the rights.
Do you have any details about Teddy Bear coded by David Peres?
David was an Ocean France Programmer.
How about Adidas Championship Football aka Adidas Golden Boot (68000 code possibly by James O'Connor)?
I don't believe we worked on this game.
Which game do you think was the best one that came out from Ocean France?
Unrealesed: Liquid Kids or Snow Bros.
Do you have any idea about sales figures for all the Ocean France games? Which one(s) sold the most?
Difficult to say but we had huge success. Mr Nutz was sold out in few days. Operation Wolf was nominated as the best conversion of the year by every award. Perhaps Dragon Ninja.
Was there much (or any) thought about copy protection when developing the games? (A few early ones used Rob Northen's routines, Pierre Adane's seemed to use a custom disk format and checksums in the code to prevent tampering)
Yes we had our own protection system.
Ocean France seemed to take great pride in making really slick games with beautiful graphics and adding extra stuff that wasn't even in the original. eg. Snow Bros has a beautiful intro that's not in the coin-op, Beach Volley had the lovely intro with speech, Pang has the big animated scroller at the very start if you leave the demo running etc.
I am an architect coming from the French Beaux Arts school of Paris and games had to be playable and beautiful. I was surely one of the first who used cartoon animator artists.
I notice you are credited as Director in a lot of the Ocean France games, but also a gfx artist. Which did you do more of? And as a director what exactly did that involve?
I was artist, producer, director (like in movies), art director and GM of the company.
Thank you for your time!
Zero Magazine Article
Issue 19 of Zero featured a 3 page "under wraps" feature about Ocean France, including some great development screenshots. Click each image for a larger version.
WEC Le Mans
Research has turned up a rather different picture of the status of the Amiga game than Marc recalls:
- The January 1989 issue of Zzap (issue 45) had a preview of WEC Le Mans, stating that the Amiga version was due to be released in December. The January publication used to appear in newsagents in the previous month, so presumably they were expecting a Xmas 1988 release. It seems unlikely they would have intended the Amiga version to come out 12 months later for Xmas 1989.
- The April 1989 issue of The One reported that development of the Amiga conversion had been halted. See page 9 of The One issue 7.
- A CU Amiga article in the November 1991 issue had Ocean's Gary Bracey officially confirming that the Amiga conversion was never released.
- A question asked on The Ocean Experience website relating to the Amiga version saw replies by Paul Hughes and Gary Bracey:
Paul Hughes: I remember Ocean France where doing Le Mans on ST and Amiga - I saw disks full of graphics ripped off the arcade board and quantised, but I can't for the life of me remember a version actually running on ST or Amiga... Somebody ripped the graphics (could've been Colin Gordon I suppose, as he did that with some Data East boards) - 'cos I've still got the disks lurking about! In fact Jobbee and I put together a WEC track with those graphics using the ST Batman track. Looked lovely too!
Gary Bracey: Yeah, that was the period Ocean France developed loads of titles... but finished none! I think WEC was one of those casualties.
- All that remains of the Amiga version are the graphics created by Philippe Dessoly for the Amiga and ST versions. They have been converted from the original IFF files to PNGs. Thanks to Philippe and Denis!
In August 2003, an English Amiga Board member called The Wolf tracked down the developers of Liquid Kids and arranged for it to finally be released. The game is a little rough in places (the English language in the game is very amusing - who could forget the classic "Congratulation! You've buying this game. It's a good choice!" message at the start!) and there are a number of bugs, but overall it's a nice little game.
The big find was from another English Amiga Board member known as Dlfrsilver who managed to track down the full game Snow Bros - one of the most slick arcade conversions ever seen on the Amiga. It was a travesty not to have been released in 1991 when it was finished. Pierre Adane did incredible programming with fantastic graphics by Philippe Dessoly, Lionel Dessoly and Christophe Soeur. Thankfully both games have been saved from oblivion!
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And it's this clown you chose to speak about the quality of ocean france productions ?
Yeah well, he brought the people with the money, but that's it...
lol 30/11/2013 3:45am (10 years ago)
Merci Marc pour cette interview qui me replonge dans cette periode heureuse de l'Amiga, et des productions Ocean France qui furent toujours un gage de qualitÃ©... Que de bons souvenirs!
[Translation: Thank you Marc for this interview that takes me back to the happy period of the Amiga, where Ocean France games were always a guarantee of quality... Good memories!]
Jerome 04/11/2012 2:53am (11 years ago)
Again It's so long ago I can't be 100% sure but I remember we had some code runing on WEC LE MAN, a lot more on Hammerin Harry and definitely everything on Snow Bros and Liquid Kids . My believe is the relationship with Taito wasn't that good anymore so Ocean never been able to get those rights . It is a shame as it was brilliant coin op conversions
Today Philippe Dessoly is working on a brilliant reloaded version of TOKI - Mn
Marc DJAN 31/10/2012 12:09pm (11 years ago)
In fact Gary, I cannot really remember but I believe WEC LE MAN was the only one we didn't finish - there is two or 3 titles who was finish but never released because Ocean didn't manage to get the license
Marc 30/10/2012 5:12pm (11 years ago)
Wec le mans was never coded (it never started), and the same is true for Hammerin Harry. Only Graphics where started. For Liquid Kids and Snow Bros, the games were started without any secured rights. Ocean UK never meant to buy the licenses for the games to the publishers (as Gary Bracey told us).
dlfrsilver 30/10/2012 3:20pm (11 years ago)